| "WHEN
I WAS a kid I was a loner, I didnt
have many friends. Every day Id go
home, close the door of my room, get in
front of the mirror with a guitar, put on
a record, Alice Cooper or Led Zeppelin
maybe and Id just rock out.
Id go some place
where I had a million friends, some place
where the party never stops , some place
where they ride in limousines with women
on each arm and Id sweat! Id
be dripping in my own room just
rockin out. Id feel good and
it made my life bearable."
Dem bones dem bones dem...
Dee Snider got to pose with the decaying
meat-coated leg of a recently deceased
cow during the photo sessions for the
sleeve of Twisted Sisters
Stay Hungry LP. "It
stank," said Dee, meaning the bone
not the record.
Dee Snider: Hair, limbs,
Mickey Mouse vest, extrovert nose and
mouth. Hes on the couch and
Im on the Lucazade.
"I had a strict,
physical and repressive kind of a father.
He was a cop, in good shape, definitely a
hard ass. It took me longer than most
kids to start to rebel but it got to the
point where he couldnt keep a hold
on me and as soon as I could I got out of
the house.
"When I was 16 he
gave up hope. He had this image of his
son as this guy who would be a policeman
he hadnt been lucky enough to be a
professional ball player. He was a cop
who liked being a cop but really wanted
to be a baseball player. He felt I had
talent. I was quite a good athlete but
when I quit playing ball to practice with
my band he was horrified and disgusted.
"There was a four
year period when he wouldnt even
look at me. I was an embarrassment, a kid
with athletic talent wasting himself
singing rock and roll. He would do
anything to discourage me from my rock
and roll career. He wouldnt allow
me to go to rehearsal so Id say
Im going jogging and
Id jog to rehearsal and jog back
again afterwards.
"When I was 16 he cut
my hair off repeatedly until the
neighbours complained. He gave me a
military haircut that was so repulsive
the neighbours actually said what
are you doing to him, he looks
horrible. So he said he
wouldnt cut my hair anymore so I
said, brilliant, have you got any
glue?
Dee Snider is now 29 and
with his dad:
"Friendly, were
real close. Once you get a distance you
realise theyre just a product of
their parents. You always have this view
of your grandparents as these angelic
beings who bring sweets over on the
weekend but then you think maybe they
were screwed up and maybe thats why
my old man was like that.
"I realised the
problem wasnt that my parents
didnt like me but that they loved
me so much they had to interfere with my
life because they thought I was going the
wrong way.
"They were brought up
with America, Apple Pie, Fight For Your
Country, Depression Babies, World War
Two! Kill the Nazis! They were really
Americans and they couldnt
understand long hair. I was only about 14
or 15 in the late Sixties when all of the
craziness was going on but the atmosphere
was there. Everybody rebelling and going
on anti-government protests. They
didnt want their son turning out to
be like that."
Play it loud, mother. You
didnt pursue other alleyways of
rebellion?
"I dont think
they realised how bad I couldve
been. I was not a bad kid! I just lived
for music and wanted to grow my hair
long. I didnt do drugs or smoke or
hang out, I wasnt cool. I
liked cars, I got a few speeding tickets
but my friends were drugged out, stoned,
drunk, 15-year-olds who never went home.
"My parents thought I
was a dream when my brothers got older.
One is real dirtbag. Leather
jacket, hot-rod, the classic street
fighter, getting arrested a bad
seed. All I ever wanted to
do was sing!"
What good do you think
came out of that era for America as a
whole?
"The realisation that
the government is not this angelic,
God-fearing organisation that only does
whats right for the people and
would never swear or get drunk or have
sex. The concept my parents and the
people like then had was that the
government was above everything.
"But theyre
lying, conniving cheatin scumbags
who run the world. Bullshit, sex and
drugs. Why is there such a big thing
about curing Aids? Its because some
of the politicians have Aids and they
dont want it to get out.
"For my parents it
was sad. They believed so hard in the
government and the American Way, they
were real Americans whod hang the
flag out the window and yell love
it or leave it.
"Then when the truth
about Nixon came out, that he was liar
and a disgusting person, it meant
everything to us kids, although I
hadnt really been a hippie, what we
had been screaming about what was true
and they were wrong.
"The backlash is like
their spirits been broken, they
dont stand up like they used and
say The President Is For Everyman. Now
its oh, Reagan, just out for
the rich. They seem beaten. It took
the belief in America away from them and
from all the people like them."
So what is the current
rage with 16-year-old Americans?
"Apathy. Theyre
very big on apathy. Just into the same
things I was. I wasnt morally
conscious but with my peers I was wearing
the ecology patches. But the whole thing
of 68 had got beyond a movement and
had become commercially sellable. So
there were little kids with peace symbols
on their lunch boxes and Ken and Barbie
dolls with headbands and big round
glasses.
"The hippie movement
became a trend and we became basically
apathetic. Not politically conscious or
active like going back to the
Fifties ra-ra, having fun, getting high,
drivin, cruisin, listening to
rock and roll the do nothing and
enjoy yourself lifestyle. I dont
know thats good either."
You dont know if you
approve of it? Surely Twisted Sister are
a part of that lifestyle.
"Yeah, but in the
extreme I dont approve of it. I
dont approve of ignoring things but
then again I dont think the kids
are even conscious anymore. Theyre
having a good time as they should. When I
look back at high school it seemed such a
chore but you dont appreciate the
fun and lack of worries. Maybe
thats what life should be about,
people enjoying themselves more. Making a
point of enjoying themselves more."
Dont Let Me Down (a
Twisted Sister song).
"We all need
heroes," says Dee. His is Alice
Cooper, Or was.
"When youre a
kid you want to be like someone. I
didnt have the looks or the
physical presence to be like Bowie
gliding into a room and filling it with
perfume and presence. Alice Cooper was
just sweaty, a days growth, big
nose, sharp features thats
me!
"Its a shame
that hes gone like hes gone.
Oh God, hes been putting out albums
full of ballads! He changed. On a
national TV special in the States he tore
himself apart. He said he didnt
know who the person on stage was but he
knew he didnt like that person. Now
when you believe in a person and the
person who it is starts telling you that,
you feel a fool. I was hurt as a fan. I
thought what am I doing here? This
is my hero and hes telling me he
sucks."
At Hammersmith Odeon
(where the crowd was crazy and the band
were kickin ass) Dee Snider had
several thousand throats chanting
Im a sick muthafucker.
Are you a different person
on stage?
"To the average eye,
people say I definitely am. I wont
say Im sick of hearing that but
these people are fooling themselves. They
look at me off stage and they say
oh, youre so nice and I
say yeah? Well cross me!
Thats a side of me that I let out
on stage, its a negative aside. I
let out all the bad for positive results.
"I consider rock and
roll a therapy. I let out every
inhibition and frustration and anger that
I have and I come off stage and I feel
good. I guess I am able to keep stable
because of that I am able to be very
content and satisfied with my life
because of that.
"I like to be nice
and friendly but when people cross me
they see the stage character is not far
away, just a split second away actually.
If someone whistles at me in the street
Ill turn and scream abuse but they
dont often do anything to my face.
If theyre in a car Ill chase
the car and kick it.
"People take
advantage of sincerity, honest and
kindness. You can be walking by
construction worker smiling and laughing
and theyll think look at that
idiot laughing and smiling and
theyll go hey pooftah
and Ill do it again. It seems to be
something about human nature, the minute
they see innocence its taken as
some form of weakness.
"I was a very
innocent child, honestly, very quiet,
very sensitive, lonely, introverted and I
got hassled and stepped on so much that I
went the other way.
"Inside I dont
wanna bother anyone and I dont want
anyone to hassle me. I just wanna be left
alone. The message from Twisted Sister is
personal freedom."
Grabbing a quartet of WEA
women for our arms, me and Dee strutted
off into the Soho afternoon looking for
bones and limos and the place where the
party never stops.
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